well, i wouldnt exactly say 'most advanced'. i generally dont comment negatively about people's work, but the people pushing this dina fad have displayed enough arrogance to warrant a response. just because a model is 'high-res' doesnt mean its better. dina has many times the polys as vicky2, yet i dont see a need for them. balancing detail with polygon count is a difficult process, and a what makes a truly skilled modeller's talent apparent is when they can create a model that is highly detailed yet makes efficient use of poly count. dina does not do that. she looks like what youd get if you imported posette into max and applied a meshsmooth modifier. sure, shes high poly, and in extreme closeups you will see less angular edges. but the difference is hardly noticeable. i dont believe that her high poly count is justified, since she shows a disappointing lack of detail. her arms and legs are just cylinders. apart from that, her body type isnt exactly appealing, nor is her face. im sure she can be morphed, but im hearing that its quite difficult to alter her default appearance. i wouldnt buy her simply because i dont believe the poly count is justified, and even though i have a powerful system i would rather make use of an efficient and appealing model than a high-poly one just for its 'high-res' propaganda. as for the default body shape/face - if it were aesthetically pleasing i wouldnt complain. im extremely happy with jim burton's supermodel vicky, because even though she has limited morph abilities in her body, there is hardly a need for them because it just completely blows me away. she has an amazing abdomen, legs and butt that you could never accomplish with vicky, dina or posette. i wanted a different face on her, and since she is vicky based, i could simply transfer the morphs from vicky 2 -- it took less than 5 minutes. with dina, you cant use vicky morphs. the most advanced, versatile model would definitely be vicky2, she combines amazing flexibility and detail/realism with a poly count that is very efficient. the most stunning model would have to be supermodel vicky, hands down.