lol dendras. id take up your challenge if i had any interest whatsoever in making vicky look that nasty. i have pretty limited time, which is also a reason i wont pick up dina. i want a model that i can load and get looking more or less like i want it in as short a time as possible. sure, maybe dina has mysterious, untapped potential, but it seems that getting her there is a very long process. i just disagree with the whole 'dina is the best model ever made' approach, and i also think that this 'scanned in from a real person' approach is a crock. and as for her being more 'realistic' than vicky? she sure doesnt look realistic - and if that was the purpose all along, why choose a silicone-stuffed broad who looks like she could have starred in a sleazy low-budget porn flick 10 years ago. if you want realism, model mary jane from down the street. and this 'scanned from a real person' mystifies me. just how exactly do you do that? please explain the process in detail. im sorry that i dont buy into the hype. im sure id make a lot more friends here if i did, or if i just shut my mouth. but i believe that everyone is entitled to their opinion, and noone has the right to censor others opinions or to impose their own upon them. think about that before you post another thread like this, bashing other models openly, then bash those that disagree. cheers, gabriel