yeah, i guess it is. like i said, things like this upset me, and i may not be my usual easygoing, diplomatic self. if an admin is reading this, perhaps this should be moved to the C&D forum. this thread has the potential for seriously hurting sales of dina, so lets not let it spread further. if moved to C&D then those currently involved can continue discussing it without people just reading the poser forums becoming influenced. i have nothing against the makers of dina, my response is simply an instinctive counter to the rediculous claims made. im trying to be as unbiased as possible, but so far not a single image (post-worked or not) made with dina has impressed me at all. the problem with hype is that when its overdone, and the product inevitably fails to live up to it, then it hurts its image terribly. lets move this to C&D - i know that many people rely on the marketplace here as their livelihood, and i have no desire to fuck with that.