DTHUREGRIF opened this issue on Sep 22, 2001 ยท 111 posts
Jack D. Kammerer posted Sun, 23 September 2001 at 1:47 PM
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Reposted from the Big-I site to keep me from retyping everything... ------------------------------------------------------------ Hi Everyone!! Okay, someone asked what are the advantages to Dina over Victoria, so here is my answer... 1.) Yes, polygon count plays a major roll in it. Because of this, her mesh doesn't explode in areas like the knees and elbows, thus requiring less touch up than other standard figures. With the count in her head alone, you can create facial morphs based on facial muscles with more realism than with Vicky. Not just the Orbicularis Oculi, Procerus, Nasalis or the Orbicularis Oris muscles that Vicky's morphs focus on, but with Dina you can focus on creating added morphs for the frontal part of the epicranius muscle, the Masseter and Mandibula muscles and more... enabling tighter muscular ribbons that fan from the jaw to the shoulders and creating wrinkles below the jaw which would obscure the Sternomastiod muscles... so yes, these polygons are needed for better range of morphing, not just for character creation, but for actual facial and body musculature. Such morphs are not included, since including them would be useless to some and would drive up the cost of Dina. 2.) More realistic in natural appearance. Granted she isn't what I, personally, would've chosen, since my defination of "beautiful" may be different that what someone else may consider beautiful. However, we worked with the model that was chosen and have done a very decent job in keeping that model's true likeness (image of the real model is included with this post so that you can compare). Yes, she is busty (I like small breasts), but if you look at her mesh and compare it to Vicky's you will notice that Vicky's is too cylindrical (sort of like tupperware bowls strapped to the chest) and there is always that line under Vicky's breast that can only be corrected in post work, no amount of morphs can change that. Also, Dina's breasts have a more natural curve to them than Vicky, so it is easier to scale them down or, god forbid, up and still keep the natural curve of her pectoralis and serratus muscles. 3.) Genitals. Gives a more realistic look to a nude figure when she doesn't look like she has "Barbie's" hips.... or "Ken's" for that matter. Despite how prudish some people can be about "Poser Porn", doesn't negate the fact that there are many people out there that would like to see realistic genitals with their characters that isn't an added morph or geometry piece that needs different mapping. If there wasn't a need for it, Eve and Millie wouldn't do as well as they do. ) 4.) JCM's and realistic range of motion limits . For example, try turning your wrist... what, it didn't turn, but your forearm did? Imagine that...!! Guess posing is a little more realistic this way then ) 5.) Texture and multiple transmap areas... better depth to your renders. 6.) Value and price. $30 includes both Hi-Rez figure (mostly used for nudes) and Low-Res figure w/hi-rez head (for clothing shots), a hi-rez photo realistic texture map and MAT Poses. Considerably less than Vicky... which can cost upwards of $84.95!! Which means that those who can only afford Poser as a Hobby will be able to purchase Dina and be able to create a more professional model character (like in Final Fantasy) at a cheaper cost. Granted, there are many out there that are DAZ loyalists and see Dina as a threat to their Poser Community views. I understand that, I myself am very loyal to DAZ and Dan Farr and I are very good friends, even though I have a competitive product. However, don't let that loyality get in the way of trying something different, or find a reason to "Bash" the value of Dina simply because it was produced by DSI. Yes, DSI feels that Dina is MORE ADVANCED than DAZ's Victoria. She, like Victoria may suit some of everyone's needs and may not for some. Some might even come to agree with us, some may not... but at $30 rather than $85, it is far cheaper to make up your own mind about whether or not she is. Thank you, Jack