I know the feeling as well. I did break down and got Vicky and Michael... but ya know I tend to use the stock P4 fem a lot... even the dork. What you have now will keep you busy a long time. Get good with that then ask for a model on a birthday or something. ~s~ http://www.vowel.or.jp/~kozaburo/ Digital babes - Great hair http://store.yahoo.com/happyworldland/ Some of the best P4 fem textures. Go to the uncut ones there and enjoy. I use those constantly for my P4fem. http://poserunderground.virtualave.net/poser/posds.html This is a huge list of urls available. You will find anything you need there and free stuff here. BTW I only use PSP 6... course I'm not a pro but I'm very happy with my results. Others must be to, since I do covers for ebooks for a living. ~s~ Dont always have to have ALL the bells and whistles... they are nice but like you, my pocket book isn't that deep.