Okay, let me re-address this, since I'm the one who started it in the first place. DAZ is having some major problems right now. Besides that, I've sent them three e-mail messages and received no reply. Enough said. Second, it lists the designer as "B L Render". I certainly have nothing against Bloodsong, and I didn't know that was the same person. If I had, I would have ranted at Bloodsong via Renderosity. :) Bloodsong: I think you misunderstand the problem a bit. Pro Pack certainly CAN read bump files...but it will accept them in .bum or .jpg or whatever format. This is a strength of Pro Pack, I think, but unfortunately that also makes it hell when you're dealing with MAT pose files. After you load the MAT and tell it to ignore the incoming bump file, it will load without it. You can load the jpg file, but Pro Pack won't convert it to a .bum file so you don't have the same problem again. Therefore you're forced to go into each MAT pose file and change all the .bum references to .jpg. It's a pain in the ass. Also, I'd have some serious discussion with DAZ about their installer. That was a real pain in the ass, and it made what should have been a two-minute process into a tedious half-hour long process. No disrespect intended. But it WAS a rant.