Quote - didn't mean to sound dense ... if ya check the pic I posted I think i got it .... not 100% sure but ..... posted forthe pro to check out ... aka you ...

:P I don't think you're dense. No one knows how to do all this stuff except bagginsbill and he'd tell you I'm doing it incorrectly, anyway - I am. Believe me, this stuff is immensly more complicated than what I actually release to the public; I water everything down in hopes the end product renders faster and is easier for everyone to grasp. All learning takes time, though - I used to HATE doing textures...couldn't get me to make a UVmap for a cube! That was years ago, and now I can do most things in a 3D pipeline. I've no doubt anything we're doing today will be simple by standards set in the near future.

I really just want anyone reading this forum to understand the concepts behind how things work in Poser. With that in mind, lets begin the next round of know-how to increase community awareness.