Last word on it in this thread I swear.... I live in the same city as EdgeNet, Bondware, and the Renderosity Forums. I have met personally, face to face with both Tim and Tammy Choate at different times. My personal opinion of these people is that they are very likeable and courteous, they work hard at what they do and they take pride in their work, which is something to be commended in itself. The fact that I may disagree with some of their business practices does not take away whatsoever from the good light in which I hold them personally. Being something of a rogue around here, my well intentioned mischief making doesn't sit too well with some of the administration I'm just sure. Tim and Tammy have always treated me with the highest respect and I appreciate that from them. Some of the statements made seem to indicate that many of you believe that this very real community here at Renderosity is a democracy. It most assuredly is NOT. While they do attempt to listen to ideas and suggestions and implement some of these, the bottom line lies always and forever with the people who operate this system and no amount of posts, flames, begging, pleading, or appealing to reason is going to change some things once they have been declared THE LAW OF THE LAND. The recent uproar over the quite [adjective here] ruling on nudity is a case in point. Though the vast majority of members, at least the ones who speak out publicly concerning such things, disagreed with the sweeping scope of this rule. No one was ever told, to my knowledge, exactly where the rule originated. Howver, the rule still stands. Though to the administration's credit it was re-worded to be more generic as it applies to store merchandise. As the non-democratic status applies to the store, HA!!! No amount of goading, prodding, complaining, glorifying, praising, or cussing is going to change some things. One of those things seems to be to let anyone who can claim a copyright to any old thing put that in the store to sell for whatever price, as long as it is packaged according to the guidelines. Some people here seem to be worried about the poor vendors who are selling this lesser quality (I'm being nice) merchandise, even to the point of calling it 'despicable' that someone would DARE to try to make something better and give it away free as an alternative. Your loyalties are honorable, though misplace. What about the poor buyers who may end up with something that doesn't work correctly or is just plain poorly constructed in the first place? What is this I'm hearing from vendors?? Let them (the buyers) BEWARE??? Beware of what? What do you think the buying public here thinks about a vendor with that attitude? Lastly, this is a grassroots movement in a large community. It will survive despite the efforts of some to mow it down with ridiculous statements and accusations of 'elitism' and greed... I say the following to the good of my cause, but to my own disfavor and likely detriment of future opportunities- If I was about greed, I would release everything I have in my quite extensive personal character inventory, along with all the props, textures, the old Poser3 characters, and every single little odd and end good or bad piece-O-crap 3D THING I have ever concocted sober, drunk, asleep, or otherwise over the past 3 and a half years, and release to the several brokers around here who regularly write me REQUESTING that I do so. The sad thing is, I could release all of that stuff HERE. IN THIS PLACE. Because even the stuff that I made myself but wouldn't pass my own inspection, would pass HERE. We'll be back with some examples and a hardcore set of standards for you, soon. Thorne =};-}>