I think part of the problem is the dual graphics on my laptop it always needs to be switched to run on the Radeon graphics not the intel which for poser thats what it wants to do I originally thought having told the ati graphics centre to use high performance for poser it would then keep it , I was wrong it defaults back to intel graphics next time I run poser ,this appears to happen only for poser , as long as its turned to the right one after I start up poser it is fine.