It's not really about winning. Sure there is some smack talk, but it's about providing Poser users with something new, and advanced to play with. Some might be happy with older figures, but there are lots of those who wish for something better. In order to get people interested in your app, it needs a showcase figure to go along with it. This industry revolves around figures, and if your app cannot support the latest, then provide an alternative. The danger is if that requirement is not met, you end up being left behind, and nobody likes being left behind, and possibly losing your user base as well. So its a question of will Dawn change that  in any way and what impact will she have. And that is what the thread is about. And yes, Zbrush is the best investment you can make:)

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