Forum: Carrara


Subject: Dear Dartanbeck

manleystanley opened this issue on Nov 02, 2013 · 55 posts


dr_bernie posted Mon, 04 November 2013 at 12:42 PM

@ Dartagnon, quoting verbatim from your post

 

Quote - from the quote of me that you've included before asking that, I was not aware that you were going to add an entirely unreasonable list of demands that, personally, I hope do not get implemented. For those wanting to use different render engines, I would truly prefer that they contact the developer of the engine. They might need to contact DAZ 3D on a professional level to build the plugin. Carrara's render engines, the photorealistic engine specifically, is one of my favorite aspects of Carrara. I love it. I know an enormous amount of people whom also prefer to use it over many others.

Let me state that my  'demands' (which are actually wishes) were stated BEFORE you mentioned the impressive technology Daz is working on. I then asked you to explain how this new impressive technolgy will help me solve my problems. I also said that drawing hi-def lizards is not an acceptable answer.

 What I said was:

Quote - What I would like to see in C9 is more accurate processing of light, flawless blending between NLA clips, native support for sketchup models, a renderer using Embree, a professional camera, a better, faster and easier to use particle generator comparable to Particle Illusions, a better spline modeler, an overhauled mataball modeler, a polygon modeler comparable to Hexagon, improved landscape tools, an HDRI lighting that resembles Lightwave's, a scripting language like XPresso in Cinema 4D, a storyboard room that actually works, a flawless live physics engine, better rigging and weightmapping tools, live preview renderer that even Poser has, tons and tons of improvements to the UI, and I could go on for another 10 pages.

But since you are calling my wish list unreasonable and expect that none of it gets implemented, let me return your 'nice and professional' comment by saying that I have gone into all the pages of the 'Post Your Renders' thread' on Daz3D's web site, as well as your product page, and I haven't seen anything done by you that truly stands-out. Nothing that could even remotely qualify as material for the cover of 3D World magazine. You should come-up with significantly better work samples for me to take your opinions seriously.

I would like now to step through my wishlist and see which one is unreasonable and why none of them deserves to be implemented.

I am asking for more accurate processing of lights. Why is that unreasonable? 70% of any CG work is accurate and imaginative lighting, because you can hide modeling or texturing defects, but you cannot hide lighting imperfections.

Are you saying that you don't want better lighting in Carrara and would rather run the risk of letting a customer walk-away because of your work's poor lighting quality? Please explain why.

You don't want accurate blending between NLA clips? You'd rather let a contract with a local TV station slip into your hands, because your animation is jerky and unwatchable? Seriously?

You don't want native support for sketchup models? So Carrara can't use the vast resources of Google 3D Warehouse? I can't believe it.

You don't want Embree to be implemented in Carrara? By my estimate Embree could speed-up Carrara's renderer by as much as 30 times. You'd rather wait 30 hours for a render instead of just 1 hour? You can't be serious.

This is what Mark Bremmer said anout Embree in post #7 of this thread (emphasis added by me).

Embree

Quote - C4D r15 has engaged Embree and it has made a huge difference in my render times. It would be nice if Daz followed suit.

If I were Carrara's project manager trying to decide on a course of action for future developments, I would much rather rely on Mark's advice than yours, because Mark has been in this industry for many years and has positively contributed in jump-starting the creative talents in many of us, while you seem to have just started.

You want no professional camera? No fStop, no shutter speed, no aperture, no iso, no backlight, no white balance, no ability to simulate at least a couple of film grades? Oh my! Am I having a bad dream or what?

You don't want a better, faster and easier to use particle generator comparable to Particle Illusions? Not even something similar to Timeline FX Editor? You don't want your renders to stand-out with flashy FXes? You don't want to impress the customer and have him sign the contract on-the-spot? You are truly doing Carrara a disservice. FX are what make commercials, animations or even billboard ads eye-catching. FX are what keep the viewer awake and focused on the meassage you are trying to convey. FX are what motivate the customer to cut the fat check for you, and you say you don't want it? Man, this is getting worse than I thought!

You don't even want a better spline modeler, an overhauled mataball modeler, a polygon modeler comparable to Hexagon and improved landscape tools? You are doing modeling in Carrara, right? You don't want your workflow to be improved for the better? You don't want getting results faster so you are more competitive in pricing your products and services?

How about HDRI? You are not planning to use HDRI and Image Based Lighting ever? Oh well! You're missing 90% of the fun, that's all I can say.

No scripting language too? Something that would let you write routines like: 'If Victoria's X coordinate is less than 2 meters away from the gate's Y coordinate then open the gate and turn-off the alarm, else keep flashing the alarm.' Think of the possibilities that this would open to create animations blazingly fast, instead of laboriously creating them keyframe by keyframe.

You are against a storyboard room that actually works? So you can show your potential clients a quick proof-of-concept, so they don't run for the Maya/XSI shop next door? Have you ever heard of someone who shoots himself in the legs? Well, that is exactly what you are doing, no sarcasms intended.

I think I'll stop here. You don't want a flawless live physics engine, you don't want better rigging and weightmapping tools, you don't want a live preview renderer that even Poser has, and you don't want tons and tons of improvements to the UI, etc, etc.

I believe your standing-up for Carrara in an obsessive and uncompromising manner is more hurtful than useful. You are not helping Carrara become a better, more successful product attracting more customers, you are contributing to Carrara staying in the dilapidated state it is right now.

Carrara has many strengths, but also numerous weaknesses that need to be addressed, some of them are actually long overdue. Opting firmly against these weaknesses being corrected is counter-productive, and looking at users who mention these weaknesses as enemies makes talking to you, well, what can I say, a waste of time.