Just so we are all on the same page, some renders of Michael 6 in PP-2014 with his HD morphs. The only thing I did with Michael 6 to adapt him to Poser so far was to make three different cr2's with three different object files: One for the M4 UVs, the M5 UVs and the M6 UVs. Took me about 15 minutes each. Could he be improved ? Sure, my custom rigged David 3 and M4LOD still bend better in some extreme poses, and the 70.000 polygon David 3 of course can be more detailed than vanilla 21.000 polygon M6 can without the HD morphs. (But with the HD technology, M6 can be as detailed as your computer allows, so any missing detail could be readily added without breaking content) My point is: A single person simply cannot build an equivalent figure system. You need a small army of modellers and content creators and a nice marketing budget. In other words, you need a sh*tload of money to push a new defacto figure standard. Think of VHS vs Betamax and Blueray vs HD-DVD. A single figure without tons of morphs hoping for "open source" community support instead of DAZ' marketing might simply won't have the staying power to do that, even if it would be technically superior in a few aspects. (The heavy hitters, the inventors, the movers and shakers of this community are for the most part long gone, disgusted by the commercialization of Poser) I've seen them all come and go in 13 years: Apollo, Renda, Eva, Antonia, all the custom rigged Posettes. Seen several über-talents burn out by the harsh reality of this little corner of the CGI-universe. If someone wants to build a figure "just because", as a statement of his talent, I'm all for it. That's why I release my weightmaps. Share a little, show off a little, make a few people happy. But I'd never seriously would spend my time creating or supporting a figure in the hopes of competing with DAZ. I simply don't believe that a single person with limited monetary means could break DAZ' monopoly, and I don't think we should delay working with what we actually have any further. "A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush" as the saying goes. DAZ is a buisiness entity, so I wouldn't shed a tear if tomorrow another buisiness entity replaced them with an even better figure. I also flamed Vicky 4 (And M4 and K4) enough in the past to proof that I definitely don't cut them some slack. But all things considered, my money right now is on Genesis.