structure opened this issue on Nov 27, 2013 · 173 posts
AmbientShade posted Mon, 02 December 2013 at 1:04 AM
Joe, you're asking for Smith Micro to sell out to DAZ because you seem to think no one else is capable of building a realistic human model.
I don't see that happening.
Maybe at some point they'll concede and do just that. I think that if they thought Genesis was a threat then they already would have invested in their own Genesis, or in licensing Genesis and its tech from DAZ.
DAZ doesn't have the market cornered on human models. If that were the case then you'd see DAZ's figures in all sorts of media - tv, games, etc. I've personally never seen a single DAZ figure being used in anything that didn't come out of DAZ's promo ads - (aside from the hobbyist renders that litter the internet), while I see James and other Poser figures being used in tv commercials, tv series and product ads at stores all the time.
There are tons of solo artists out there that can sculpt, rig and animate humans that are far more realistic than anything DAZ has ever done. If you spent a little time visiting the higher end 3D sites you'll see plenty of examples every day.
The bottom line is, the only way Genesis is ever going to get into Poser natively is if SmithMicro wants it in there, and so far they have made it pretty clear that they don't. The only other way it will happen is if DAZ decides to make a Poser-native version themselves, and so far they've made it pretty clear that they have no intention of ever doing so.
It's great that you've gotten Genesis to work in Poser for your own work, and any other Poser user who wants to do so can follow your examples, and all your demo threads on how to do so. But continously ranting about how Genesis should be native to Poser, especially in a forum that isn't even an official Poser forum, only leads to threads getting locked. You know that I respect your work, and several others here do as well, but this argument is old and tired and after 3 years, none of it has changed a single thing. It's only caused good threads to go bad. And I really have to question, since you have done all the things you've done with your own Genesis figures, why do you care whether it's native to Poser or not? You aren't a vendor and you can clearly make all your figures be whatever you want them to be already, in either platform. So why the constant rants?
I like Genesis too, I think it's a pretty cool figure. And when I want to use it, I use it in DS, where it was designed to work its best. But I don't want to see Poser sell out and lose it's open ended feel where everything has to look and function the same or nobody wants to use it.
Let DS do what it does best, and let Poser do what it does best, and the users will decide which one they want to use for themselves, like it has been all along. And please, stop turning every thread about figures into a Genesis-Should-Be-In-Poser thread.
~Shane