Shane, don't you think that after 13 years of botched figures there is a pattern emerging ? The folks at SM can't model or rig for sht. Sorry. And they are too stingy to hire professional talent. Sorry. They throw stuff out in the hopes that "the community" will fix it. Which actually worked somehow in the past, but mostly because the average Poser hobbyist can't spot professional work even if it bites him in the a*. But DAZ went serious a couple af years ago, sinking a lot of money into figure development, and now the lack of quality of Poser content becomes obvious even to the most ignorant Poser users. Don't get me wrong, I'm not against "hobbyist" content, not even in the marketpkace. (Although a lot of the stuff sold really keeps me wondering what the modeller and especially his customers were thinking) But when it comes to figures, I don't give an inch. These are the main tools of the program, and without proper, anatomical "correct" humans, we could just as well all stayed with Poser 4 and Posette. Or stay with V4 and a few "fixes" forever. As for professional modellers, who in his right mind would want to work for Poser, given the profit margins you can achieve here ? Unless he is paid in advance ? If someone is willing to pay for a truly professionaly made "exclusive Poser" mesh, I'm all for it. But you still need all the mapping, the textures, the morphs and the clothing getting made and the testing and the marketing. This takes $$$ and can't be done by a group of bright eyed volunteers. Simply not worth the effort given how big we (Everyone of us, including SM) let DAZ' monopoly grow. Sorry, SM was asleep behind the wheel and they've got a rude awakening. So, yes, I'm all for SM "selling out" to DAZ. It would immediately re-unite the communities and give merchants the ability to cater to both systems again without having to make compromises. I think that would be the best for the Poser community in the long run. We basically "licensed" DAZ meshes for Poser since the time Vicky 1 was released. We might as well finally be honest to ourselves and make the deal official. BTW, for quite some time Poser had both its "native" Poser 4 renderer as well the "licensed" Firefly renderer working side by side. So, adding the ability to fully host "triax" rigged figures in .duf format doesnt mean all natively rigged figures in .cr2 format will stop working.