Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: poser: fundamental flaws in characters

structure opened this issue on Nov 27, 2013 · 173 posts


ssgbryan posted Mon, 02 December 2013 at 2:19 PM

I have a question for all of you who are expecting "someone" to make a "better" figure or "fix" the issues with legacy characters.

Just how do you plan on getting both the vendors & customers on board with a new figure?

Just for the sake of argument, let's say someone rebuilt G2 Sydney - all "issues" to include symmetry issues are resolved.  We'll call her G3 Sydney.

Just how do you plan on getting the vendors to rebuild all of the morph packs and the figures that no longer work?  Or for that matter, getting SM to build morph sets for it - the only figures that SM built morph sets for were Alyson and Ryan. 

Why would I upgrade to this "new, improved" figure?  I don't do NSIATWAS or yoga renders, so the bending issues that you folks are obsessing over are irrelevant.

Customers by and large, don't appear to care about the mountains that all of you are making out of molehills.  They want to "Load, Conform, and Make Art."  They have no interest in learning the ins-and-outs of Poser (or anything else for that matter).  Most would be content with Poser Debut and it's Poser 4 feature set, and they certainly are not going to be adding modeling tools to their workflow - they are too cheap.  It's a hobby, not a lifestyle for most of them.

With respect to the vendors, they have no interest in any figure not named Victoria 4.  This is the same issue we have been dealing with for the past decade - see all of the male clothing threads. 

In addition to that, many are firmly welded to a Poser 4 production flow and have no interest in changing that.  That is why we are still dealing with crap like materials as .pz2 files in late 2013, DOS naming conventions, texture maps with burn-in, etc.

All the marketing at DAZ's disposal hasn't made the grey golum a Gen4 replacement.  After 2+ years the golum has less content available for it than V4 had in the first 90 days. 

For those of you clamoring for the golum, I'd recommend taking a look at the content available for it - Clothing comes in 3 flavors: European Mediveal Fantasy, Space Fantasy (i.e. not practical), and hookerware.  The figures are all caucasians, all the time.  In comparison, both Miki 4 & Dawn have more ethnic figures available for them than the golum does.

New figures that bend better are ignored by both customers & vendors (See Antonia, Michelle, Apollo Maximus, etc).

We have about 6 years worth of empirical evidence that the "If you build it, they will buy it." is a failed business model.   

So just what would be the business plan?