<<The problem is, the things we wish to make vendors aware of in making their work simply are NOT being checked for in most stores. I know for a fact they are not.>> So you are basically speaking about the store testers at this store and not any other. How do you know that Daz would not accept this? A model of yours perhaps that was rejected or someone you know? Just wondering unless you are one of their testers that you would know this for a fact. So, all of this is aimed at this store and not any other, because obviously you can't speak about any other store since you have no experience with them as a tester. So you really have no idea if vendors are already being made aware of things like this, you are just assuming that you and the other people that want to form this guild (read here --> save the community because the stores sure aren't concerned about quality.. because the testers don't know what they are doing and they aren't good enough, and we as the best of the best need to save the community and weed out the bad vendors; the forums that are up now have no one qualified enough to help the vendors or new modelers or whatever take you pick and anyway they are doing NOTHING) apparently are the only ones qualified to inform them. Whether or not you mean to Mehndi this is really how you are beginning to come across..the more you talk the worse it sounds, I'm sorry. And this isn't elite thinking on your part? Ummm...okay.