Heya Pendarian ;) Good morning Vietnam! But my friend, we ARE staying and helping change that, as you say :) Do you see us going anywhere yet? Even when being flamed to death? No, we just girded up into our flame proof underoos and trudge onward into "battle" to change all that ;) We do know that you all do have a fine rep for rejecting things that have problems. No one has ever said you did not ;) But we are also here to not call names of the places we feel are releasing poopie, since that is not our goal, anymore than calling the names of actual real live "this is who did it" names of the vendors themselves is our goal. I mean, once we thought about that, doing just that. "This is the poopie art!!! beware beware beware... and here is something free that is better than it." but would that really help anyone to get better? No, it would not :( It would be hateful, and it would not help any community, no matter how much that community or its store needs helping. We are not hateful people. We are not snobbish. We want to instead turn the frustration we felt into a good thing, a thing where we are able to do independent testing just like In Depth Arts (since more hands = more testing done) for those who wish that, and to mentor anyone who wishes to learn how to do better, via training and teaching. ALL are welcome in our effort. Anyone of any site and any store. Everyone from the Master level craftsmen with lessons to teach and a good heart with which to teach them, on down to the newbie who just bought Poser yesterday. Not a soul who wants to learn would be turned away. And we are not leaving or going anywhere to do this. We are not opening a store to do this. We are not forming a new community to do this. We are just going to do this, right here, in the middle of every community. A No Mans Land Truly Neutral Quality Movement that we chose to call Guild. We chose to call it guild because so many here have wished they could be in the Renderosity Merchants Guild, but found that "honor" or whatever it was, was closed to them. Our "Guild" is open to all, and all are welcome :) We hope you will be a part of it too Pendarian, since items tested by In Depth Arts, and by us too, will get you twice as many tested and certified items on your store shelves :)