I wasn't aware you were prone to over-exageration Mehndi. Flamed to death? What part of this thread is flaming you? I see some questions, a few complaints and some observations, certainly nothing that qualifies as a "flame". A bit melodramatic don't you think? Now, you want to see what a flame is like, please have a look around in C&D, there's some nice warm bar-b-cues in there. :( I'm getting confused again. You're not here to call the names of the poopie places, so you generalise and tar ALL the stores with the same brush which by default must include the DAZ store too seeing as they too are profit oriented and reliant on getting stuff "up there". If you are not generalising, then may I respectfully request, unless you are prepared to point your finger, you drop the "store poopie" nonsense and concentrate on the mysteries of your guild. It's so easy for people to generalise and tar everything with the same accusation and then play innocent. Please, if you are not accusing Daz or 3DCommune, then that only leaves a few others. If you're not careful you'll start getting into the realms of slander because a lot of vendors have their own stores. Perhaps if you were to say that "there is poopie available somewhere on the planet for people to buy" it might be better than by saying "in the stores", and then saying you aren't pointing a finger because "in the stores" IS pointing a finger. A hard sharp finger that says "these places are selling crap"... You say they are, then say certain ones aren't, or might be but might not be, but... Hrrm. I'm sorry if I was a different person I would suggest that you are thrashing around trying to make accusations without actually saying anything. But I'm not like that, so I won't say it. It's nice to see that your Guild is going to be an active and resident part of ALL the existing communities, from PFO to Renderotica and all stops in between. That is excellent news. Really excellent. That means I suppose that all the artists and vendors and people of excellence who will be gathering under the guild banner will be helping everybody everywhere. :) I think that's admirable. It will be so nice to see the really good artists climb down here in the trenches and guide people towards the goal of excellence you hold so highly. Great news Mehndi. That's absolutely wonderful. I'm going to go off and crack a bottle of wine and celebrate. I was so worried that you were going to take people and leave and not use the existing forums and tutorial sections and there you've said it. You're staying. You're all staying. You're going to use these places to achieve your goal of a level playing field and quality. I am truly relieved. I look forward to the guild members posting their tricks, tips, secrets and guiding us (lesser) mortals in the arts of creating stuff. :)