aleks, I think I remember your question now. Fair enough. I like Natalia's knees myself but I don't expect everyone to agree. And yes, at the time I made her I was concerned about polygon count. If I was doing Natalia over again today, I would make a higher-density mesh. As of this moment, Dina can wear only her own clothes. All of the clothing that I currently offer for Natalia is also offered in a Dina version, with the exception of my cloaks, which I hope to remedy soon. Some other people have also started to make clothing and accessories for her. I also have a corset/dress pack which will be released for Dina any day now and which will be available only for her and Natalia (Natalia version will be released sometime in the future). As for her shoulders, I don't want to keep arguing the point. She is what she is. I don't think I nor anyone at DSI has ever said Dina was supposed to be average (but then neither are most Poser women). Diane Griffith has posted a new free Dina .cr2 on Renderotica and GRC with some additional morphs to round her out and make her a little more proportional. I'm sorry if my website has been flaky. My web host has been having some trouble with viruses so sometimes dacort.com goes offline for brief periods.