@hedheld - I, too, struggle with camera/light placement, and your solution makes sense. However, you lost me when you say "now parent lights to camera and use a track to constraint from cam to empty." I see what you are driving at, but don't get the part about the "track to constraint." Is this accomplished in the constraint panel, and if so, what would the settings be? I am assuming that moving the empty also moves the camera and lamp. Correct me if I'm wrong...

TIA

C~