Let's get it straight.... I could care less about what she allows or rejects. That said, it's obvious that there is a major shift in focus over at "Poser Forum Online". Clearly the intention over there is to promote technical discussion and host commercialy acceptable art work. Is Willow going commericial? It goes without saying that by default, Renderosity will become the site of choice for many like myself whose images are controversal or unacceptable inthe alternative venue. I think that reality should be publicly stated and discussed. I there-for I join with Leee in asking that we avoid the tired issue of censorship in favor of considering the more postive view I have laid out above. Christine