Thanks, Cage. Your old stuff had that more illustrative look old Poser 4 stuff had. Less photo-real and more like old pulp magazine cover paintings in gouache. I think I liked that old stuff more than most of the new stuff... it was more Folk Art and less Hollywood. I feel like the old stuff as I remember it had more emphasis on weird imagery and narratives. It was less about the virtual surfaces given the inevitable "plastic-looking" quality of the renders. I try to keep hold of that in my work by blasting stuff with IBL or plugging diffuse texture maps into the ambient channels but I have not found my way back to that weird plastic quality in renders. My computer was so lousy back in the late nineties that I often just anti-aliased my previews rather than actually rendered. I loved painting in the hair and clothes etc. in Photoshop. There was something about the crudeness of the models and render engine that drove personal vision more in a lot of people's work I kind of think and often that made it pretty evocative. There is an unrealness to pre-firefly renders that I still find fascinating.