Ok thanks! The problem is this though and as yet nobody has told me how you do it :O( If i go into the materials editor chosse a new skin texture and then go into render and render it it looks fine, but hen when you go back to your main window and move your figure it goes back to how it looks before it was rendered. Im at a total loss here really. Does anyone know where there are any really good tutorials for beginners on how to create textures etc. Theres so much to learn with Poser its unreal. i wish there was a tablet or pill on the market where you could just swallow it and have the wealth of knowledge that you poeple seem to have :O( Very stressfull!