I hope I didn't keep you from starting a thread on photorealistic rendering. While I have no real interest in it at the moment, that doesn't mean I wouldn't be interested in the topic. As long as we're on the subject though, I also see a disturbing trend. It seems if you disagree with someone's opinion in this forum, and you say so, people accuse you of being hostile, no matter how politely you disagree. Then people get mad and take a personal poke at you. When I disagree with someone, i usually spell out why i disagree, and trust me, it's nothing personal. I don't actually know any of you, you know. How in the world COULD it be personal?