You guys have made some great points, especially those of you who seem, in theory, at least, to know about topology and edge flow. Here's where I diverge from you though. Poser has made the software, and given you the tools and the features to use. However, Poser has always depended on third party principles to create the content. That hasn't changed. What you want, however, is for Poser, SM to go the whole distance and make the figure for you as well. So what i don't understand is why don't one of you step forward and create this great and perfect 3d figure yourself? I swear, if I knew how, I'd do it in a heartbeat. Talk is cheap. Let's see some action.