Before this thread is completely GONE in lala land, if it isn't already...I best post my own opinion....I should have long ago but to be honest I hesitated. [The most advanced Poser figure in existence is a reality].....this statement really bothers me, and I know it also bothers others, cause it's arrogant in it's very suggestion. A poser character is only as good as what one can and will be able to create with it and people's opinions are subject to vary all around, many folks still do not like Victoria and yet she is "supposed" to be better....I think it would have gone MUCH, much better had Dina been introduced as "one of the best things to come around for a while"....even that, although a "confident" statement...is far more realistic in expectations and just sounds far less intrusive and less cocky than what has been "hailed" here. I have a feeling that THIS alone "may" be one reason why this whole Dina thing is being blown way out of proportion and is getting so much flack....was it really necessary to advertise her as a suggestion of being the "best there is anywhere", because THIS is what I read from this. I will not dwell on that though, cause there has already been enough shit on this thread already to last a while. I will now turn towards this razzing by fishbilly whatever.....um....is that necessary??? First off, why the phony username? Second....why such an arrogant bunch of posts at all....to me, fishbilly's additions to this thread are just blatant obvious dissentions upon the people that created the model and therefore hold no water! If you had an honest opinion about this character all around there would be no reason to go alias and take cheap shots like this....it could be up front and honest....and believe me I know all about alias, this is not the time when your trying to make a point. You know, I will say one thing here, there are a lot of things sold in poserland all over, many characters and models are only variations and morph alterations of already existing meshes....at least with this character/model, she is an "original" which is something we really can never get "enough" of for our softwares. For that, no matter who created her or designed her or markets her....she should be 'welcomed" and not spit on with dissentions. It is one thing to have past greivances with various folks for whatever reasons, if that is the case, like say with this fishbilly....but that should have NO bearing on their creativity whatsoever, that's just wrong. If something is a lucrative and "reasonable" offering then bias should be left out of it. There is a lot of worse things we can buy for thirty dollars and Dina is actually something that has much potential in that she is a "unique". As for "looks"....since this has been brought up....I will suggest also that she is NOT my cup of tea...but again, nor was Victoria , by any stretch...not until some very wonderful enhancements were accomplished all around. Besides....what I may not find my cup of tea, someone else may find extremely exiting and lovely....and why, oh why must every poser gal be some stereotype woman that looks like or resembles Barbie....we have more than enough of those. Personally, I think we need MORE variety all around, and this is a good attempt at something way different....for that Dina should be commended and not put down. Now many may question my motive for being here....I am trying to give my "honest" opinion all around....that is my right....like I said, I do not like the arrogant AD this post starts out as and for that it asks for a debate at the onset as far as I am concerned.....but on the other hand....I think some are being a might way too harsh too....this character should be given a chance if just for its' individual uniqueness alone, but also for the sake of "creativity and talent" that has obviously gone into her....regardless of the bad/poor choice of words to present her. Dina does deserve better than what I have read in this thread.....that just from what I SEE and nothing more.... On that note....have a pleasant day all around.....and good luck....