Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Content or Software?

EClark1894 opened this issue on Mar 09, 2014 · 229 posts


Male_M3dia posted Tue, 11 March 2014 at 9:33 AM

Quote - So since vendors can not make cloths that fit more than a single figure we have to dump Poser to support them?  When I go to the store in real life I look for a size that fits.  The reason 100's of people can wear the same shirt is because it is dynamic.  That is it will fit any figure.

The following quote is from a product marketed at DAZ (Dynamic Classics for V6 and V5 supermodel):

"Dynamic Clothes flow with your character's shape in a more natural way. With conforming clothes, no matter what method you use, the more different from the base mesh your character is the more unnatural the clothes will fit. Particularly difficult fits are extreme shapes, where animated draping is recommended. Nothing fits more natural than dynamic clothes since these clothes don't fight geometry but flow with it creating exciting visual details with wrinkles and folds that dynamically change depending on your pose - enhancing realism in your renders"

 

So since even DAZ acknowledge the benefits of dynamics why don't the vendors support that method?  Dynamic has been a part of Poser since version 5 and the lastest version has added bullet physics.  I do know that DAZ does not have dynamics as part of the program and that it some type of hack/script add on and that each items has to be made by a single vendor/team.  WHY?

The dynamics conversation comes up from time to time, but sales-wise dynamics aren't as popular as conforming otherwise you'd see more items. Dynamics don't allow for details as conforming does. Dynamics make for flowing dresses, but more people want that jeweled bikini armor so they can rush into the temple ;). If dynamics actually affected DAZ's bottom line, I'm sure they would have moved on it by now.

Quote - V4 is popular however it has 100's of flaws that is a whole vendor support area providing fixes to those issues. Genesis 1 only lasted a year before being dumped.  What assurance is there that Genesis 2 is all that?  And even if Poser was to add native support what features of Poser would the current vendors add?  The whole problem being they do not want to support more than a single figure/version odds are great they will not add any thing.

Actually Genesis is was over 2 1/2 years old before Genesis 2 was released. It seems like a year because people spent more time arguing about it than using it ;) Technology does move quickly, especially in software so 3 years between figures would be expected. No one walks around with 6 year old cell phones or laptops, figure tech shouldn't be any different.

Quote -   Currently the content I have for V4 is being used to convert to other figures.  Basically I have turned V$ into a dress dummy that cloths are made on.  This has the advantage for venders to make something that can be used by the vast number of users who refuse to upgrade and can be used by studio users also via the autofit.

  1. This does not support the target figure, but the source. A figure gains popularity and support from items specifically made for it. If no one buys for that figure or just simply converts what they have, vendors take it as non-interest and goes elsewhere. 

  2. Eventually as people want more from their figures they will move towards other figures, so less people will buy into old tech. So then the vendors will have to choose and move as well. You don't want your figure depending on content of another when that happens.