When I demo, I take a worst case scenario.

Look here at the Poser2 female shoulder bend (right side, and the W-Map corrected one on the left.

Poser 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, P8 and PPro2010, P9 and PP2012, P10 and PP2014 Game Dev
"Do not drive faster then your angel can fly"!