BTW, Joe, I meant to say the girl in the first drawing isn't phoney :-)

I have lots of real women like that in my ... ummm ... reference image folders, such women do exist, there's plenty of them.  It's just that over the last few decades the photographers have shifted away from such women, and now it seems focused mainly on teens.

My favourite type of women are the ones they used to photograph in the sixties and especially the seventies, I have heaps of that stuff, there's some truly incredible babes among it.