I'm not judging Americans, I was just being witty.  I blame the media for trying to brainwash us all into believing that America is fat and doesn't realise it.  It's nonsense of course, in fact American women in general are extremely hot as far as I'm concerned.

You do eat a lot of burgers, though, cos I've seen the burger bars on every corner in the movies :biggrin:

Anyway, you should never have posted those links.  You've distracted me now.  I absolutely LOVE that stuff, and now that you pointed out Bisley, I have seen his work, I've seen lots of it.  I'm just a noob but I love it to bits.  That Heavy Metal Magazine as well, I could look at that stuff without ever getting bored, awesome!

The only time I get to see it is online on various websites.  I'm not even sure they sell that publication in the bookstores here.  I'll have to look in WHSmiths next time I'm in there, but I reckon I'd need a specialist shop for that stuff.

I started getting into that art not too long ago out of frustration with 3D.  I just got sooooooooo fed-up with not being able to do what I want with it, even though I'd spent so many years messing around with it and so much money on it over the years.  Nothing has changed and nothing ever will.

I still have nothing to show for getting into 3D or CG so I said to myself, screw it, I never used to waste so much time achieving nothing when pencils, paint, ink and paper ruled.  You don't have to worry about the price of keeping up to date if you do things traditionally, and real art is actually worth something whereas prints of renders from a computer, are not.  I mean you don't have to worry about whether your pencil is 64-Bit compatible, either, none of that crap.

Imagination - materials - done!

I used to love drawing, I really miss it.  And the thing is, I think those images you pointed out are waaaaaaaaay better than a photograph at achieving a visual anyway.  They're a feast for the eyes and although I like real images, I don't get the same sort of a satisfaction out of a photo as I do drawn images, it's just not the same.  You know what I mean because you said yourself, the biker girl is your ideal girl ;-)

There are a billion photos of babes out there, yet you chose a drawing to represent her