Thanks Anton :) I only ever add the numbers in, never actually double clicked the dial. Ohhhh, more stuff to play with. Isn't lighting fun :) The first one is fantastic for daylight, around midday. The second one looks like an indoors scene, like in a museum where there is a lot of ambient light. The third is just plain terrific for midnite strolls (good thinking hauk s) I guess the sharpness of the ground shadows at nite would also be determined by the phase of the moon nae?