Dude I sware I'm going to pull out that Sp3 DAZ cheerleader. You make it sound like it takes more then one person at DAZ to maintain the store. DAZ is little more the a content broker now, one or two people could keep things running there and the way it looks, that might be all there is at DAZ; full time.

Please take in to account there are many people with far more credbility then I saying the same thing about DAZ and carrara. They just seem to have this ability I don't, which is to say bad things nicly.

There is a difference between some machanical foubals that can be fixed but don't impead the operation of the vehical and a totaled out wreck. Carrara is far from a totaled out wreck. But lets carry on with that anology. You take your car to the machanic, it needs it's 50K mile tune up. You go back to pick up your car, you get the bill, pay it and on the drive home find the car runs worse then when you took it in, the radio and left turn signal dosen't work and the brakes squeck. So you take it back to the machanic and he says sorry we'll call you when we can work on it, then doesn't call you. So you are stuck with the vehical your machanic borked and charged you for then proceeded to avoid their responcability to fix it, at all costs. Even at the loss of sales and long time patrines.

"Yes after a lot of reform and structural changes I believe Daz is now doing quite well as an organistion, from what I hear. I believe though it's more a question of revenue streams."

Yes, they bought out DAZ, fired all the origenal people, and turned DAZ in to nothing more then a content brokerage with a minimal coast of operation, maximising their profit and putting none of it back in the busness. They have been doing it for 3 years.

And beleive me, all carraraests feel like second class citezens at DAZ, not just me. I wouldn't get this sort of argument on the carrara forum because everyone there agrees with me.

"Lets see put money in the tinker toy sales gimmick or the actual CG app? Hmm, well you know people will forgive bugs and issues in the free one so it doesn't matter how well that one is developed. The people with the actual CG app want it to work right and work as advertised. So lets put our time in on the tinker toy app because it's usesers are more forgiving or our inept development".

Tell me you don't forgive Studio many of it's flaws because it's free.

DAZ puts development money in to carrara; or what's left after they cut their profit margen out of it, based on carrara sales. DAZ puts money in to Studio based on content sales.

Please tell me what is over blown about me expecting the application developer to actually, well, develop the app, or at least fix it. If you listen to DAZ C8.5 was the best selling build of carrara to date; and the BS meter says./. If that is so why hasn't any of that revenu went back in to carrara to fix all the bugs and features DAZ broke in the release?

Well that is easy, DAZ has no developers on staff.

And beleve me, I tried to do it the right way. I have been a game and application alpha/beta tester for 16 years; I was a DAZ Hexagon 2.5 beta tester. I tried to work with DAZ, I treid to be a good supporer, I got kicked in the teeth. I actaully had a DAZ rep tell me that DAZ would tell us carraraest what we wanted in carrara because we didn't really know; and that person is the one person I have no respect for but will still argue tooth and nail with.

As I have said, you see all this from the DAZ golden child prospect, you need to climb down from that guilded cage and stand here in the muck with the rest of us in the DAZ family.

Really is it asking to much for DAZ to fix what they break and give us what they promis, is it asking to much to get what I PAY for?