Look Manley I do understand that you have frustrations with Carrara development and some of the implementation of newer versions. Not being a Carrara user myself I guess I have a different view of Daz3D and its operations as its not impacted by these issues.

Being from such different view points we are probably going to struggle to ever come to any kind of singular view point on these things.

So I propose a truce, I will sympathise and empathise with you Carraraiest "the red headed step children of the family". I will also try to keep an open mind to the issues you guys face with the development and lack of updates to solve real problems that you are dealing with.

All that I ask of you is that you respect there a lot of people who are quite happy with Daz3D and its software. And While its not all perfect. Pls try not to piss in my coffee everyday just so I can also know the taste that makes yourself so bitter. Given time these issues will either be solved or become redundant. Maybe any day now Carrara 9 will drop and leave everyone drooling over the deftness of its implementation or maybe it will be quite a wait and tbh I wouldnt expect it anytime soon.

Also Pls understand that ranting in the Daz Studio Forum about Carrara Issues isn't the best platform for gaining traction with Daz3D regarding fixing the issues with Carrara.

So what do you say we agree to disagree?