Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Indulge a minor rant, please

infinity10 opened this issue on May 30, 2014 · 94 posts


Male_M3dia posted Tue, 03 June 2014 at 8:36 PM

Quote - > Quote - > Quote - I had been commenting on a thread such as this on the "other" site and like all of the others they locked it even if the thread itself was not negative in any way.  

So I have my doubts about Genesis 2?  Those of us who are not Studio cheerleaders are speaking our minds and we are hoping that something better might come out of it all.  I thought they would have made a difference with Genesis 2, guess not.

I am concerned about the skin stretching that has happened when converting from M4/V4 to Genesis, and if that still happens with the newer figures.  

See; I am asking these questions to see if I want to push forward, and I want to see what others have gone through.  If I post the question in a thread praising the figures I will not get an answer that does not include a gushy response about how the figure is wonderful.  Therefore I post in a thread where commenters are both pro Gen2 and against it.  

You see, I am not endowed with hundreds to spend on these toys, as that is all they are to me.  These programs are not money makers for me, I sell art that I create with my own two hands. So maybe my heart is not into it as much as the companies think it should be.  

I have to ask these questions. I've no other choice.

Sorry to sound so negative but to see my questions and concerns be so easy to toss aside by companies that I once respected and honestly helped fund to get to this point, kind of brings me down.

Unfortunately these weren't the things you were asking in the other thread before it was locked. It was the same type of things that were said back in november when the thread was created and necro'd back to life; thus the mods locked it because nothing new was added to the conversation. Now if you had actually asked if there were issues with UVs, that would have brought something different and a topic someone could answer for you. However you merely stated that you didn't want to lose your investment and that you'd be afraid you'd invest in genesis and then genesis 3 would come along and you thought tech was moving too fast and alienating customers... that was covered multiple times by multiple people in the thread so the mods locked it.

The thing to take from it is this:

A figure should stand on its own. Not everything not made for it is not going to look good on a different figure; things may be compatible, not identical. The compatibility is there for "good enough", but if exactness is a criteria you're probably better off staying with what you have. Benefits only come when using things actually designed for that figure; using anything else will mostly take some work to get it good enough.

We all have different needs, goals and incomes to dedicate to 3D content, if you have a question that you're unsure of, be specific and ask that question, but don't repeat the same thing that others said multiple times in the last few pages several months ago. That's when the mods see that nothing new is going on and locks the thread.

I would prefer not to have to quote my own posts from there.  The ones where i did ask these conversion questions.   Others were aware of my questions?    As for asking, I do not want to sound rude but super pro genesis users are not going to be honest without blasting the older figures or my resistance to upgrade.  You have proven that.  Andfor my other comments, I was new to that thread so as far as I was concerned it was not old business. Once again, I am not trying to be rude but really?   This is what I am talking about.   

Yes, but you referred to that thread as somehow the mods were stifling your speech and made it seem like you were a victim, which did not occur. You simply added nothing new after the mods pointed out the same thing when the thread was necro'd 8 months later. So if you didn't want to discuss that thread, then probably you shouldn't have bought it up.  But as I said, you didn't ask questions, you made a statement about not wanting to give up an investment... there's a difference. If you actually asked the question you posted here rather than say daz isn't listening to their customers and about tech moving too fast, then it would have added something to the thread and wouldn't have been locked. But to make it sound like the "pro DAZ-ers" were ruining your opportunity to discuss something that been rehashed so many times isn't correct. It's really poor taste to even bring this to another forum to drum up sympathy. If people wish to take a look at the thread and see what I'm saying is correct or not, they're more than welcome to look.