Quote - > Quote - Thought I'd chime in before the discussion DOES get locked. I've fiddled with Genesis and Dawn. They both have their positives and negatives. My only interest is whether they will help me make better art more efficiently. Right now the answer is no because none of them will increase my results regarding concept, color, lighting, or composition. These are the improvements I'm currently seeking in my artwork. Nor will they help me with my postworking (though they might cut down the need in some instances). The time and cost to rebuy, relearn, translate, transfer and emulate is not equal to the potential benefit to my finished product.

For those that wonder how people can use old technology it's because the tech is just a means to an end not the end itself. I'll upgrade my OS, computer, software and other tools when it provides a clear benefit, not when a tech company decides to release a new product.

 

I think your right although I personally feel many see it in far more black and white terms and feel that anyone not for Genesis is therefore against.  I am not against new tech but it has to give me benefit in either what I can do or make it easier to do what I do already.  Like you I do not feel the proven cost:benefits are there at the moment.  Others have different aims and different goals and the benefit may be there for them. 

Which is another reason why I do read Genesis threads and do not like to see them locked for, not only do others use Genesis in Poser, there may come and time when the benefits do outway the costs.

 

You and I both. ;)  I bought out Genesis less then a year ago because I believed in the greatness of the product, but even that figure is being pushed aside.  Luckily for me the vendors I cared about who made stuff for that figure are still going strong. ;)

It's just the handling of the subject has been lacking at best. 

I don't know but I thought that Genesis 2 was going to be better, they had a chance to work on the compatibility issue but instead just gave us all another $30 dollar expense in Genx 2.  Is that not the same as buying the morph packs for the older figures?

Until you realize that sales usually do not apply to that program.  At least when Daz made their own morph packs you could usually see them discounted in the annual sales if you could not afford to buy them full price because they were Daz originals. They made the PC worth getting, but not anymore.  

Geesh I still have to upgrade my version of Poser to use it without Studio, and those problems are scaring me even more.  I buy the newish upgrade and then have the issues that others seem to have just to make the figures work.  But my Gen 4 clan will still do just fine.  See yet another issue.

I mean we all could care less and move on, but it seems some of us actually care about the companies still, and maybe we care to move forward but there are many things giving us cause not to.  For me it's the cost of upgrading.

Either I spend money on this scattered figure and programs to use it, or I spend my money on breaking my M4/V4 wishlists down.  So I support my fav M4/V4 vendors and that is my choice.  If posting my complaints in a hope for some support makes me a villain in the 3d world then so be it.

I can deal with that.

 

 

 

Malem3dia, you aren't going to bait me like you have done with others.  Sorry ;)