Quote - What most don't realize is that the majority of the people in the community (DS & Poser), only want to load premade content, pose premade content and then hit render.

I agree

Most people who buy stuff in the Daz and Poser stores want  'ease of use'.

They have never opened the hair room or setup room. They only open the joint editor to zero a figure. They use pre-made poses, pre-made skin textures, pre-made models, pre-made expressions, pre-made sculpting body morphs, pre-made pythong scripts, pre-made utilities to make pre-made stuff even easier to use.

They did not buy Poser to learn physics or engineering or computer science. They just want to render their fantasy image and post it and share it with other like-minded 'artists'.

Vicki4 doesn't need a DSON to work in DAZ Studio or Poser. She has 8 billion terabytes of pre-made content both free and for sale. Not just skimpy wear either. She has all kinds of Victorian dresses and office suits and almost any kind of clothing you can possibly think of.

I don't think it really matters if the character has a lot of content at the start. It matters more... to the buyer at least... if content keeps coming at a continuous rate.... that is the most important selling point.

Apollo Maximus was going well... for a male character. If it had been Apollonia... a female character... I bet she'd still be hopping nowadays.

What hurts Dawn is she only works in Poser 9 or higher... not older Poser and not DAZ 3. Some long-term DAZ users have not upgraded to DAZ 4... for the same reasons folks from Poser 8 and older have not bought Poser 9 and up... it forces the user to have to change the 'ease of use' they came accustomed to.

I know folks get tired of these neverending posts about the changes in the past couple years... but it is because there is a huge group of folks who would LOVE to jump on the bandwagon... but you have to use that DSON and import this and make sure you have this thing clicked 'on' and do the hokey pokey and turn yourself around. Or you can try to learn DAZ 4 with their library on the left and apparently the same library on the right... and it seems to create a thumbnail for every single thing you ever bought and there's smart content and dumb content and genesis this and genesis that...

That's why I just load V4 in and do an instant scene. And wish like hell Genesis could do this without me having to learn Poser all over again.

We buyers who only whose purchase pre-made content were WANTING to use Genesis. This is the major frustration and why these threads always pop up. It is damn frustrating. Poser 3 thru 8 never had this problem with the Vicki1 thru 4.

Genesis 1 was around for 5 minutes... this also hurt their competition with the V4 hangers on.

V4 works in any DAZ studio version and any Poser version and she has endless content... this is why she's still hanging on like a champ.

My two cents that turned into 4 cents... sorry for the long windedness