hi all,

in my opinion, since people are different, purposes are different, 3D knowledge and experiences are different, educational backgrounds are different, wallet contents are different and machineries are different, there is no good or bad or worse or better, and our endless list of alternatives is not exploited to the full either.

But when I open the Poser forum, the front page reveals various threads in alternate renderers without figures to support the various statements, so I just give some numbers. Then everyone makes his/her own choises. Okay?

Some additions for the moment.

By accident, I found out that the scene rendered in Firefly in 1 hour (58 mins) when mirror-reflections were off, instead of the 7 hours when these reflections were on. This confirms that the mirror-in-mirror is causing the pain, especially in conjunction with IDL because that light gets reflected till infinity as well.

Second, I tried the tracing alternatives mentioned for Octane. Direct / Diffuse with bounces set to 12/12/6 - to stay in sync with the Firefly and Vue settings - did not make any difference with Path Tracing. It took 4800 samples to get rid of the noise and that took 80 mins again. Reducing the bounces to 6/6/3 reduced rendertime to 66 mins, and of course puts a limit on the mirror-in-mirror effect.

I'm re-rendering the scene in Firefly to give you a good comparison with the two Octane results available now. Given rendertimes, it will be available tonight or tomorrow.

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Usually I'm wrong. But to be effective and efficient, I don't need to be correct or accurate.

visit www.aRtBeeWeb.nl (works) or Missing Manuals (tutorials & reviews) - both need an update though