Actually, don't have Vicky 2. I work with Michael for the most part. This was an interesting departure. I really don't work that much with the Vicky 1, either, except in the earlier days when there was no Michael yet and Vicky was filling in for a male model, which she did quite well...probably not a great recommendation, but I really appreciated her flexibility that way. I know this discussion tends to slide on over to the competitive side of the street, but I made no mention of the super models or Vickettes, Posies, or whatever, and I did not evaluate Dina in light of these other, no doubt excellent, models. And I am thoroughly amazed at how the "chimp lip" defect has been so handily fixed. Big improvement. Thank you, eng