**" Some great renders Wolf. I've got to say though, it's not "just" the render engine, I think that these are also excellent examples of how important the skill level of the user is in conjunction with the renderer. In this case, it looks like you've really mastered  it extremely well."**

Thanks!! I am somewhat of a render engine junkie and try to learn the various capabilities of the many that I own.

But it would be a bit "dishonest"
for me to let anyone attribute these renders  soley to any "masterful"
input of mine.

These were made with an incredible FREE plugin for C4D called "SIBL"( smart Image based lighting)

It is a collection of various HDRI environments ,that when loaded, the plugin automatically establishes your GI render settings for each HDRI scene for  C4D's native render engine and even Vray for those of us who have it.

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