I personally have never been able to figure out how they survived as long as they did...I agree with Mosca's statements wholeheartedly...My favorite example of their code of ethics was their opinion of people that tried to sell their poser related creations, such endeavors were considered evil and bad...Funny that Willow has been selling goods through Daz for some time now under a different name...As well known as she is why doesn't she simply use her real name????? In fact, I think she has some new items in the store there this week...They may have played a major role in creating the cottage industry that sprung from Poser but they apparently were not willing to grow along with it...Their constant mistrust of anyone and everyone that a had a different viewpoint from theirs was dealt with immediately by being banned from their forum...That is fine, they owned it, they could operate it anyway they see fit...I am just sorry to say, having been there from the beginning I have no sympathy for them considering what supposedly happened today...