Quote - seems like you are trying to piss on me for trying.

They may have looked, they may never look, but at least I can hold my head up and say I tried, which is more than I can say for a lot of Carrara users

No not at all. I'm a pessimist; and for good reason, if most everything I do isn't an up hill tooth and nail battle in mud, I figure I'm doing something wrong. If I fix something easy with no hassle, I know it isn't fixed. Eor is my hero.

This goes with my experiance with DAZ. Over the years DAZ has gotten less and less communicative and treated carraraests more and more like second class customers till we get to were we are today. New content, especially for G2F/M, doesn't work in carrara and DAZ has said nothing since the release of C8.5.

The carrara forum at DAZ should be more then contests and commercials. Yes there is the advice, but there should also be some communication from DAZ. Part of a forum is suposed to be communication between the customers/fans and the company/devs.

Why do I make assumptions based on little real info? Because we have nothing else. The addage that no news is good news doesn't work in this case. It's no news is bad news.

I know there wont be a C8.6. Next build of carrara was C9, 3 months over due and not a word from DAZ. What do we know about C9? It might, MIGHT have fixes for the issues in C8.5. Anything else?

Now over due I'm not worried about, I've come to expect it. But no word, no explanation, no "we're working on it", that is quite worrysome.