Dumb as it my sound, depending what is behind the camera....don't do like idiot me did once and about pulled what little hair I have out by pitching the camera in such a way the the reflection of V4 in front of the mirror was reflected off to the side because was using a black sphere over the scene and the camera angle was such that it didn't see V4's reflection in the mirror. IE the black background was showing up in a black mirror which made me think the mirror wasn't reflecting. It was purely a poor camera angle on my part that was the problem.

Gary

"Those who lose themselves in a passion lose less than those who lose their passion"