The problem with keeping PFO noncommericial is that it is in effect censorship. Who here doesn't have some poser related item that they paid for? How can we not talk about what is out there? If they want to have any kind of disscussion on 3D graphics some commercialism is going to creep in, and the renderosity website is going to be mentioned as will all the other big sites (Daz & poserworld comes to mind) Say for example someone asks about where to find a certain model and it happens to be a commercial item, are we supposed to say nothing? Now I don't know what the entire history of PFO, nor do I know what happens behind the scenes over there. Maybe it has something to do with an agreement with Daz?