Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Why do conforming cloths rule ?

RorrKonn opened this issue on Jul 26, 2014 · 54 posts


parkdalegardener posted Sat, 26 July 2014 at 8:36 AM

IMHO Conforming cloth is still the most often made clothing becasue DAZ couldn't use dynamics till reciently without extra cost and hardship in varity. Poser users have been tied at the hip with DAZ until reciently. That is one of the reasons everyone wants/wanted Genesis to run in Poser.

Dynamic cloth is actually quite easy to use once you understand a few simple things. As for it being slow to use, that is an incorrect assumption probably based on an older version of Poser. The dynamics in PP2014 are extreamly fast on my modest 8 year old computer.

I've noticed that there is a heck of a lot of dynamic clothing appearing at DAZ for use in Studio. Conforming cloth is exactly what it claims to be. It is easy for the end users who are more artist that technician. Dynamic cloth seems to be more effort than it's worth is what everyone is told, and like sheep; most users carry on grazing in their field without looking to see what lies farther out unless they are lead there. Folks syaing dynamic cloth is hard, time consumming, inaccurate in result and crashes often are shepherds keeping the flock grazing over and over again in the same field. No new grass to experience.

I animate. Dynamics produce great results and conforming not so much. Many here do still renders. They pose and render quite happily with their conforming cloth. For a pixie sitting on a rock staring vacantly into space this is fine. What most users don't understand is that semi naked chick swinging the sword is just that. Moving. When you take a photograph you are freezing a moment of movement. That runway model you are trying to reproduce in a still pose was moving when the referance photo you are using was taken. 

That alone is one of the most revelant things a person needs to understand. Movement. Something conforming cloth cannot do. Stop doing all your work on Frame 1. Instead start doing it on frame 30. Do as you have always done up till now. Your still renders will be no differant than before.  After you get used to that back up a few frames and change the pose slightly and allow Poser to calculate the animation through to your final pose. Do the same thing again with Dynamic cloth and you will see why it is superiour.

That is also why DAZ is making dynamics easier for Studio users. Modern video games and sfx use dymanics. Our machines and tech easily allow us to as well. DAZ has clued into that. We knew it all along but were scared away from it by missinformation. Not a purposed missinformation but a misguided one.

It's not a simple one click operation to do a render any more. We mess around with lights, materials, morphs, render settings. Why not just add a few more clicks to do dynamic calculations. Poser has a lot of capabilites for animation and our renders are but a moment frozen in time. Those tools are there to be used by all Poser artists no matter what your final render type may be and dynamic cloth is one of those tools.

As long as vendors feel that we only want to use one or two figures different figures, in simple static poses; we will will not break away from conforming cloth. It is usually pretty easy to rig and poke through doesn't happen in the poses the vendor tries. Dynamic doesn't need rigging and poke through sledom happens except in extreams.

You would think this a no brainer for merchants. Make the cloth and don't worry that you need to put in morphs for every possible itteration of the target figure. Your life will be easier. But; you only get to sell your item once. It can then be dynamically fit to most any other figure. There goes the income stream. You cannot keep selling the same item over and over again, rigged, and morph included; for a different figure.

I make a lot of simple cloth for my usage. All of it dynamic. It can be refit for any figure in a few seconds and always flows correctly. I am sad to say that in all the years Wardrobe Wizard has been in Poser I haven't used it or bought any of the licences. This is not a reflection on PhilC. The man is brilliant and I have learned a great deal from him over the years.

This missive is just my opinion, but then; you ask for opinions.