Ironbear...I realize "that" is a very subtle hint that this post has indeed run its' course and is best left in mothballs...and I certainly do NOT wish to carry it on even further....basically I just wished to come on and "agree" with you..."what is the point?...it's past" kennect...with all due respect..."get a clue" was unecessary, my awareness is far more than I wish it was way too many times...I am not a forum virgin... Take care...