No problem Felderin, that's what we're here for. :) I totally understand what you mean about Bryce. I downloaded the Bryce 5 demo, and I have to say "Love at first sight" was definitely not what I felt.... I was fairly impressed with the True Space 5 demo for some perverted, sick reason, but I've alreaady got Rhino, which seems far easier, and the interface makes sense. Plus, I'm saving up for 3D Studio Max, but that'll take a while. if I hadn't gone the Rhino route, I probably would have gone with TS 5. I have no experience with Carrarra, so I couldn't say one way or the other. E-on makes a big deal right in the front of the manual of how proud they are of their interface, and I have to agree. Like anything else, it takes a little getting used to, but once you do, which maybe takes a week or so, to remmebr where everything is, you'll love it for it's functionality and the fact that it works well. And the world browser is one awesome feature of that interface. Once you strt really getting into the filters and functions, for the bumps and the color production you'll be astonished the flexibility Vue 4 has for material creation. I highly recommend it. :) And yes, E-on does have a side grade offer for registered Brycers. I think you save about $30.00 U.S. Any more questions, by all means, feel free to ask!