Why so much aggressive obsession against the DAZ company ?
We have C8 which works very well !
I don't know C8.5, but thanks to its exit, DAZ shows us that they works on the program.
I know, it is with the main goal of integrating Genesis and all the items which go with it, but we don't need that to carry out excellent things in Carrara which still forms part of the best softwares of the moment.
I believe that the “Wait and see” is much more constructive than unfruitful speculations, which should not prevent us to informing DAZ what the users would like to see evolving or integrating in the program…