With all that I read like negative points about the version c8.5, I quite simply did not make the upgrade…
I don't need it, what Genesis have moreover than Generation 4 ?
It is necessary to also say that I'm not a purchaser of items DAZ, I builds the maximum myself either uses free objects from ShareCG or Renderosity.
The majority of my commercial objects come from Poser or are included in Carrara.
I prefer to await a possible version 9, but if it not include, for example, the dynamic clothing simulation (animated), or an improvement of the particles system, I' ll be not either interested…
I'm not on the forums since a long time, but if I read what you written, the solution would be that another company repurchases Carrara ?