"the PFO kept harrassing and banning anyone who even mentioned Renderosity" "they wouldn't allow any mention of Renderosity." Wrong again. Posting links weren't allowed, mentioning Renderosity is allowed. "Actual linking to here would certainly call for a banning." No, the link would just be deleted. "Ahh...who cares--- I don't, not anymore." Apparently you do, otherwise you wouldn't have made your last two posts, even after Ironbear said, "No need to refight it over again is there?" If some of you want to keep obsessing about this, I guess thats up to you....... As far as I'm concerned, it's time to drop the bashing. Coldrake