This generation or any other have nothing to do with it, I think they just understand that Daz couldnt give a crap about them so why bother, I really did like Daz and wanted to try and help them out, but after this, and the lack of help from the so called community, I will not bother again, and I would advise anyonme thinking of doing something in reguards to Carrara to seriously leave me out of it, I will limp on with 8.1 for now, removed 8.5 due to the immence bugginess of it, and see where my Art takes me, but after all this I am one step away from leaving it and finding something else to do as a hobby